Some questions about my Necromancer - Guild Wars Forums

tomanders91 · Jul 29, 2007, 10:41 AM // 10:41

I currently have a N/Mo, its a level 20 55hp, but i cant get the hang on the 55hp stuff so i want to change it to either (no55hp stuff, all full hp):

SS based build (alredy have spiteful spirit)
MM
Blood based build

Which one of these would be best for completing the prophecies campaign?
I can get skills from prophecies and factions ,but only the kainegg center in factions.

Which ever one you choose could you possibly reccomend a build for me?

Oh, and where can you get the best 15k armor for a necromancer? The only place i have seen it right now is granite citadel

Tiny Killer · Jul 29, 2007, 10:49 AM // 10:49

Out of curiosity, what do you run when you are not using your 55 farming build?

tomanders91 · Jul 29, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57

i have no idea, thats what i mtrying to get some advice on :P

Tiny Killer · Jul 29, 2007, 11:34 AM // 11:34

OK, let me rephrase the question. What did you use to get to level 20, before you started to only farm as a 55?

tomanders91 · Jul 29, 2007, 11:37 AM // 11:37

powerlevel :P

Yanman.be · Jul 29, 2007, 11:49 AM // 11:49

Gee...I wonder where all those unexperienced people come from...They're level 20! That must mean they're good and have at least some game knowledge!

Powerleveling ruined your game. Uninstall. Why? Because you didn't learn the game the way you're supposed to. Fighting through the jungle and desert without max level and max gear is probably the best way to learn the game.

I'm sorry, but you royally screwed yourself. This game isn't like WoW or any other "only level matters" games. You LEARN the game by playing it, not by getting powerleveled. Delete the character and start a new one.

tomanders91 · Jul 29, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55

sorry, but i have finsihed most of te game with 2 other characters, the reason i got run and powerleveled because i originally just wanted to make a 55hp necro, but i cant get the hang of that, so i want to try and complete the game as a necro. And why are you saying dont buy gold for $? i havent.

Well ive decided im gonna try MM, and yanman can just RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO off please.

Ghengis Kwell · Jul 29, 2007, 01:22 PM // 13:22

If you don't want to hear what people think then don't post! Yan Man made a valid point and does not deserve to be slated for it. Powerlevelling does absolutely nothing for your game skills.

sykoone · Jul 29, 2007, 02:32 PM // 14:32

What he's trying to say is, if you had played a necro through the game first, you would already know these basic answers.

That being said, a MM build is accepted in pretty much every area for the game, so you'd probably have a better time with that. As for the armor, since there's no difference other than looks, just find one you like the look of. Skill-wise, you should be okay, but I would recommend going through those first couple missions in Factions so you can cap Flesh Golem. It's a bit easier than any other MM friendly elite, and pretty much standard on most MM skillbars.

Commander Ryker · Jul 29, 2007, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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Originally Posted by Yanman.be

Gee...I wonder where all those unexperienced people come from...They're level 20! That must mean they're good and have at least some game knowledge!

Powerleveling ruined your game. Uninstall. Why? Because you didn't learn the game the way you're supposed to. Fighting through the jungle and desert without max level and max gear is probably the best way to learn the game.

I'm sorry, but you royally screwed yourself. This game isn't like WoW or any other "only level matters" games. You LEARN the game by playing it, not by getting powerleveled. Delete the character and start a new one. Oh, and don't buy gold for $$$. It ruins the economy, therefor ruining your own game AGAIN.

QFT Part of the fun is learning as you get the different skills (if you're in Prophecies). You get the skill, you try it out and go from there. So yes, Yanman is right in what he said. Get over yourself.

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Originally Posted by sykoone

What he's trying to say is, if you had played a necro through the game first, you would already know these basic answers.

That being said, a MM build is accepted in pretty much every area for the game, so you'd probably have a better time with that. As for the armor, since there's no difference other than looks, just find one you like the look of. Skill-wise, you should be okay, but I would recommend going through those first couple missions in Factions so you can cap Flesh Golem. It's a bit easier than any other MM friendly elite, and pretty much standard on most MM skillbars.

There are places where a MM works most excelently and others where SS is the build that works. Most people will tell you, if you party up with humans and actually doing/failing the quest/missions, unless they did the same as you. So, I'll agree with some of the others, delete and start over. Don't forget to empty inventory of bags and salvage the armor for the runes. Don't power level, do all the quests and missions in the order they should be done.

wetsparks · Jul 29, 2007, 10:43 PM // 22:43

Just another thing, you can never go wrong with blood magic. Beaten all three games using nothing but blood magic. Some n00bs will give you a bit of hell for it, but they aren't worth grouping with anyways. Playing through the earlier parts to find out which combo of blood magic skills work like the above posters have said will help out greatly.

Coloneh · Jul 30, 2007, 12:23 AM // 00:23

delete your character. start over. you dont know how to play.

Astral Wraithguard · Jul 30, 2007, 08:38 AM // 08:38

I wouldnt necessarily delete the character but I would recomments going back to ascalon and progressing through the game in the normal manner. As to 55 necros, I have a MM which I completed phrophecies with (because he was my first char and has always been a MM, I dont like to experiment with him). So I created another necro which I switch between 55 SS and combination of Curses and Blood).

I would strongly agree with other posts that you need to progress through the game and learn how to use your charcter.

Pick Me · Jul 30, 2007, 01:39 PM // 13:39

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Originally Posted by tomanders91

I currently have a N/Mo, its a level 20 55hp, but i cant get the hang on the 55hp stuff so i want to change it to either (no55hp stuff, all full hp):

SS based build (alredy have spiteful spirit)
MM
Blood based build

Which one of these would be best for completing the prophecies campaign?
I can get skills from prophecies and factions ,but only the kainegg center in factions.

Which ever one you choose could you possibly reccomend a build for me?

Oh, and where can you get the best 15k armor for a necromancer? The only place i have seen it right now is granite citadel

1) Either practice as a 55 or remove all armor until you are used to the necromancer.

2) Get new armor without any runes, since Runes are forcing you to have little health and you have no idea on how to play a necromancer (which is why you are asking for advice), and start off in Iron Mines (to get infused).

3) The builds you seek should be found in the Necromancer Build Thread. I suggest that you start experimenting with every single skill the Prophecies & Factions Necromancer has to offer (in other words, buy all skills and cap all elites).

4) Curse builds are great everywhere. MMing is good only if you have ample supply of corpses (Hells Precipice and Abadon's Mouth do not have enough corpses and burning will destroy what undead you do have).

5) 15K armor - Granite Citidel, Marhan's Grotto, Kurzick's Armory (I don't remember what the actual name of the city is), Luxon's Armory (I can't remember what city name that is), Imprial Palace (end game Factions for 15k Cantha armor). Marhan's Grotto is located south east of Thunderhead keep, sometimes an easy run, sometimes not.

Builds are for those who know what skills to use and when to use them. Some builds can be used by some people, and some can't (you already know this by trying to 55).

Try typical SS build, but don't start from the beginning, go from Iron Mines onward. Get your new un-runed armor and do the mission. Get infused and try your hand at experimenting on what curses you think work well.

Hope this helps.

Tijger · Jul 30, 2007, 01:47 PM // 13:47

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Originally Posted by tomanders91

Well ive decided im gonna try MM, and yanman can just RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO off please.

Go for it, but a 55 MM is only going to be an exercise in futility, you'll very likely die a lot and very few people will be interested in playing the actual game with you.

I'd take the advice others have given, learn to play the game and playing certain builds first before you try 55'ing.

tijo · Jul 30, 2007, 11:35 PM // 23:35

AS stated previously, starting a new necro from scratch might be a good idea just to get a hang of the profession. As for builds, MM, SS are known builds that work, but they aren't the only ones out there, so a bit of experimenting with skills would be a good idea too. Also don't take for granted that a build will work everywhere, there's one key word to playing Gw easily: flexibility. Be ready to switch builds or alter your build as the situation requires it.

Jul 29, 2007, 10:41 AM // 10:41	#1
tomanders91 Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: W/Mo	Some questions about my Necromancer I currently have a N/Mo, its a level 20 55hp, but i cant get the hang on the 55hp stuff so i want to change it to either (no55hp stuff, all full hp): SS based build (alredy have spiteful spirit) MM Blood based build Which one of these would be best for completing the prophecies campaign? I can get skills from prophecies and factions ,but only the kainegg center in factions. Which ever one you choose could you possibly reccomend a build for me? Oh, and where can you get the best 15k armor for a necromancer? The only place i have seen it right now is granite citadel

Jul 29, 2007, 11:49 AM // 11:49	#6
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	Gee...I wonder where all those unexperienced people come from...They're level 20! That must mean they're good and have at least some game knowledge! Powerleveling ruined your game. Uninstall. Why? Because you didn't learn the game the way you're supposed to. Fighting through the jungle and desert without max level and max gear is probably the best way to learn the game. I'm sorry, but you royally screwed yourself. This game isn't like WoW or any other "only level matters" games. You LEARN the game by playing it, not by getting powerleveled. Delete the character and start a new one. Last edited by Yanman.be; Jul 31, 2007 at 07:54 AM // 07:54..

Jul 29, 2007, 10:49 AM // 10:49	#2
Tiny Killer Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oshkosh, WI USA Guild: Exile Champions of Heroic Order [ECHO]	Out of curiosity, what do you run when you are not using your 55 farming build?

Jul 29, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57	#3
tomanders91 Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: W/Mo	i have no idea, thats what i mtrying to get some advice on :P

Jul 29, 2007, 11:34 AM // 11:34	#4
Tiny Killer Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oshkosh, WI USA Guild: Exile Champions of Heroic Order [ECHO]	OK, let me rephrase the question. What did you use to get to level 20, before you started to only farm as a 55?

Jul 29, 2007, 11:37 AM // 11:37	#5
tomanders91 Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: W/Mo	powerlevel :P

Jul 29, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55	#7
tomanders91 Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: W/Mo	sorry, but i have finsihed most of te game with 2 other characters, the reason i got run and powerleveled because i originally just wanted to make a 55hp necro, but i cant get the hang of that, so i want to try and complete the game as a necro. And why are you saying dont buy gold for $? i havent. Well ive decided im gonna try MM, and yanman can just RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO off please.

Jul 29, 2007, 01:22 PM // 13:22	#8
Ghengis Kwell Baby Maker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Guild: Sent Fromhell Profession: D/W	If you don't want to hear what people think then don't post! Yan Man made a valid point and does not deserve to be slated for it. Powerlevelling does absolutely nothing for your game skills.

Jul 29, 2007, 02:32 PM // 14:32	#9
sykoone Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Mystical Chaos Profession: E/	What he's trying to say is, if you had played a necro through the game first, you would already know these basic answers. That being said, a MM build is accepted in pretty much every area for the game, so you'd probably have a better time with that. As for the armor, since there's no difference other than looks, just find one you like the look of. Skill-wise, you should be okay, but I would recommend going through those first couple missions in Factions so you can cap Flesh Golem. It's a bit easier than any other MM friendly elite, and pretty much standard on most MM skillbars.

Jul 29, 2007, 10:43 PM // 22:43	#11
wetsparks Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2006	Just another thing, you can never go wrong with blood magic. Beaten all three games using nothing but blood magic. Some n00bs will give you a bit of hell for it, but they aren't worth grouping with anyways. Playing through the earlier parts to find out which combo of blood magic skills work like the above posters have said will help out greatly.

Jul 30, 2007, 12:23 AM // 00:23	#12
Coloneh Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Profession: D/W	delete your character. start over. you dont know how to play.

Jul 30, 2007, 08:38 AM // 08:38	#13
Astral Wraithguard Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Dark Dreaming Gods Profession: N/R	I wouldnt necessarily delete the character but I would recomments going back to ascalon and progressing through the game in the normal manner. As to 55 necros, I have a MM which I completed phrophecies with (because he was my first char and has always been a MM, I dont like to experiment with him). So I created another necro which I switch between 55 SS and combination of Curses and Blood). I would strongly agree with other posts that you need to progress through the game and learn how to use your charcter.

Jul 30, 2007, 11:35 PM // 23:35	#16
tijo Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Montreal Guild: [CDDR] Profession: R/	AS stated previously, starting a new necro from scratch might be a good idea just to get a hang of the profession. As for builds, MM, SS are known builds that work, but they aren't the only ones out there, so a bit of experimenting with skills would be a good idea too. Also don't take for granted that a build will work everywhere, there's one key word to playing Gw easily: flexibility. Be ready to switch builds or alter your build as the situation requires it.